@JonB , thanks. Yeah, it appears great for a reasonably robust way to identify let's say an entity. Interesting reading the article. I ran the function of the py3 beta and the py2 beta, and I got the same result as the article says you will as it's from the same vendoer. I have saved the result to see if it changes next time I do a beta update. It says it may or may not. I have 3 installs of omz software (editorial, py3 beta and py2 beta) It doesn't really matter, just interested. This way seems pretty good for pythonista scripts.