If Pythonista had a developers conference, what city should it be?
PDC, "Pythonista Developers Conference" until @omz names it himself. I think there should be one. I know python has pycon or something like that, but the natural evolution of a program like this is that it should have its own annual gathering! I Would love to meet all the guys on this site at such an event. If such an event should occur, it would make sense to me that the first event would be done in omz's home City , or close by , first. Just out of respect. Subsequent years , could be held in different countries.
As omz is doing all the work, he should not be called upon to do any organisation. That would be up to us, the enthusiastic users. But would want to schedule the event so omz had time that he could attend and speak/present!
I would happily be one of the organisers. I have been involved in many such events, even in recent years. Not programming , but the organisation of between 60-350 guys coming together from all around the world , normally 4-5 days. I am a member of another international club. You will laugh, but we play dice. It's not about gambling! Just expats meeting up having a great time. But regardless, I have experience with this.
Why did I write this? I want people to think about having annual get together to discuss all issues related to Pythonista, meet all the guys. Hear omz's vision for the future etc...
but It needs someone to start talking about it
In my honest opinion I think omz will be too modest to get this sort of thing going. We need to plant the seeds. But at the same time we have make sure he has control over it. Meaning that agenda's , names/acronyms , etc are approved by him at the same time not burdening him with all the minor details. As long as his vision is being represented, and he is being briefed I think it could work well.
I said it the nice way in the last paragraph. The hard and direct way is to say not to hijack omz's program for our own benefit!
Ok, I am on, I am sure these guys are hard core programmers :) but it's ok. They welcome beginners and new ideas. I have already told the organiser I can not answer Python Technical questions. For sure I will be the biggest newbie in the room :)
Congrats! This is great!
You have video-out cables for the iPad to VGA and/or HDMI?!? Ask the organizer to test that the video-out works with their projector/tv before the event starts. An AppleTV let's you run completely untethered if you have one of those and the room projector supports HDMI.
Don't tell your audience that you are a newbie... You have been writing production code for longer than most of these guys have been alive! Our natural reaction is to seriously tune out presenters who start by telling us that they are clueless on their topic.
Instead, just tell them that your approach to coding has changed quite a bit now that you do it more for fun than for earning your daily bread. Talk about your passion for the platform and how coding on a mobile device has different constraints but can be much more enjoyable than being chained to a desktop. Show graphics, ui, sound... talk about your interactions with others in the community on this forum. keep it fun.
Assume that some of the audience will know more than you about Python but not all of them. User groups often attract folks who are just learning. The guys who really know a ton are free to take Pythonista out for a spin and evaluate it on their own. If they ask you questions that you can't answer, encourage them to sit with you after the preso and try out their ideas.
Your objective is just to convince folks to give it a try. After the in-depth discussion on implementing continuous integration and continuous delivery with Ansible vs. Saltstack, your presentation should send the message that folks can also have fun with Python.
@ccc , we are so similar :) of course I would give anyone the advice you have just given me. But I left a few things out. Whilst I told the organiser I am a newbie, I also told him I had in the past a substantial programming experience. The basics are still relevant today, but also I understand a lot has also moved on since I was last programming. But really, I never get intimidated. I never try to be more than I am. I am ok just the way I am. But I have had a lot of practice at it also. Other than just sharing here, also like to show the young guys like @Webmaster4o you can do it. I have been out of business more than 15yrs, but I am still ok to turn up and do this. It's only people. It's not like you are presenting to a bunch of hungry polar bears :) the organiser is not aware of Pythonista, but it could be that every other person that attends have it. But then I will just throw out my outline and turn it into a discussion rather than me try to tell them what they already know.
LOL, just checked the time differences. Will be about 1 or 2pm in Berlin when I am presenting. Going to see if @omz could be online to answer questions from the guys :) will see, maybe maybe not. But everyone always feels good when the developer talks with you!
Regarding the AV, first thing I asked him after he told me he would like me to speak. As long as they have a hdmi port for the TV or projector, I will take my Apple TV and just mirror to the screen. I will also have a back up. When I was younger, also responsible for setting up huge booths at trade shows such as Macworld.
But as smart as I think I am, It still took you to point out the obvious to me about how to meet fellow Python programmers. Again, I really appreciate the time you give to me and others here. I honestly try to follow up on any advise I get here. I value people's time and effort.
@Webmaster4o , that's a shame it's around finals time. Are finals around the US the same time? Given Python is so big in the educational system, I am surprised they would choose a date that conflicts with students final exams. Regardless, I see your point, finals are more important than anything. No distractions needed!
If I submit a proposal that gets accepted, can I back out, or am I obligated to attend? I'd be happy to submit a proposal if that doesn't make it definite that I'd have to attend. It'd be nice if I could decide once I got news about whether my proposal is accepted.
Also, finals will probably not be started by the BEGINNING of June, they'll probably start 1 or 2 weeks in. 9th grade finals aren't super important to do well on, either.
The other thing I have to consider is whether my parents would want me to go to Salem for 5 days alone.
Lastly, happy birthday to me 🎉🎊🎁
@Webmaster4o , wow happy birthday. 14, well that seems like only a 100 years ago :) really, happy birthday. I hope you have a great day.
The long and short of it is you should not be alone anywhere 5 days by yourself. Could one of your parents or a relative attend with you. I only say, because I think this sort of exposure to crowds of professional people at your age would be invaluable. I often forget how young you are. But of course you should only attend if you have a trusted family member with you. The world is too crazy these days.
@omz a meeting is great - would be easier to organize it in the digital world first.
Hence I am not so far to Berlin - living in Kassel - I am open for a meeting or a small conference.
But my question would be if Berlin has good and cheap locaitons - and furthermore a conference would take quite some organisational skills.
@Phuket2 thanks. I might be able to get my Dad to come, but both my parents work full time jobs, and would have to take time off work.
@ccc and @omz And others. Unfortunately, I didn't get to give the talk on Pythonista as planned. It's about 2 1/2 trip into Bangkok centre from where I am in Pattaya. The first 45mins-1hr into the car trip, it was raining and raining. Monsoon style rain. In the end the motor way was just not visible, could only see black as far as the eye could see. It just got too dangerous. If the rain had been like that in bkk as well, bkk would have been flooded and bkk comes to an absolute standstill. So I contacted the organiser just to let him know I couldn't make it. He understood. When it rains that heavy here, it's not just an inconvenience it's dangerous and you easily get stranded. Just point it out, as it might seem weird that some rain can have a dramatic affect. But it really can. I haven't been on the forum, just because I have been sick. Back up and running first day today :)
Unfortunately I will not make ThaiPy's December meeting also. Will have guests from Europe here. From now to mid Jan, will be inundated with friends from around the world. That's what you get for living in a tourist city :)
Anyway, wanted to give you an update. I really was looking fwd to giving the talk. I felt prepared and excited. But the next chance I get, I will do it.
Happy coding everyone