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    Benchmarks: What new things does iOS 9 enable in Pythonista?

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    • omz
      omz last edited by

      Move the cursor by putting two fingers on the keyboard.

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      • Phuket2
        Phuket2 last edited by

        Wow, that cursor trick it great. Just had iOS 9 loaded for about 30 mins. I find it quite fast and punchy.
        @omz, I am not sure if it's my imagination or not, but I am finding Pythonista a lot faster with ios9. I have never found it slow, but lags that you expect when printing to console etc seem to have been reduced significantly.
        What could be interesting if you published a benchmark.py sometime that put Pythonista through its paces , that users could copy and paste the results along with their hardware specs program version etc.
        well, thinking about it, there may already a std one we could use, I am not sure. But as long as we are all using the same one could be interesting and useful data.
        Just a thought

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        • dgelessus
          dgelessus last edited by

          @Phuket2 The Pythonista benchmark goes like this:

          import sympy
          

          ;)

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          • Phuket2
            Phuket2 @dgelessus last edited by

            @dgelessus , lol. 6.8 secs on my iPad Air 2 , on first run ;)

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            • blmacbeth
              blmacbeth last edited by

              @Phuket2 iPad 3 with iOS 9

              >>> import timeit
              >>> timeit.timeit('import sympy')
              30.62135100364685
              

              Not bad for an almost 4 year-old device.

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              • ccc
                ccc last edited by ccc

                >>> import platform, timeit
                >>> platform.platform()
                'Darwin-15.0.0-iPad3,4-32bit'
                >>> timeit.timeit('import sympy')
                19.643120050430298
                

                Darwin 15.0.0 is iOS9.

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                • Phuket2
                  Phuket2 last edited by Phuket2

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                  • Phuket2
                    Phuket2 last edited by Phuket2

                    This is what I get

                    import platform,timeit
                    platform.platform()
                    'Darwin-15.0.0-iPad5,4-64bit'
                    timeit.timeit('import sympy')
                    8.560050964355469

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                    • Phuket2
                      Phuket2 @blmacbeth last edited by

                      @blmacbeth , agreed. Still ok, but I would say the increase in speed also worth the upgrade. I know, this is only one thing. Not sure how these Numbers translate generally. That's why I mentioned about a benchmark test for Pythonista specifically

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                      • smath
                        smath last edited by

                        For reference against the other iPad 3s, here's one that's still on ios 8.3.

                        import platform
                        >>> platform.platform()
                        'Darwin-14.0.0-iPad3,1-32bit'
                        >>> import timeit
                        >>> timeit.timeit('import sympy')
                        >>> 
                        21.3953218460083
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                        • JonB
                          JonB last edited by JonB

                          I suspect this has an awful lot to do with what other apps are open, whether or not you have internet turned on and thus whether background processes are going on, etc.

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                          • Phuket2
                            Phuket2 @JonB last edited by

                            @JonB , true. I normally have a lot of apps running in the background. I closed them all down. I didn't restart the iPad though. Then with timeit i was getting consistent 6.33xxx. Also turned off mobile data and wifi. That made no difference still around 6.3xxx. Each time I shut down Pythonista before running timeit.

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                            • Phuket2
                              Phuket2 @smath last edited by Phuket2

                              @smath , with the exact same code as yours on iPhone 6s, I get the following
                              Darwin-15.0.0-iPhone8,1-32bit
                              4.09668588638
                              Darwin-15.0.0-iPhone8,1-32bit
                              1.13581109047
                              Darwin-15.0.0-iPhone8,1-32bit
                              1.13619184494

                              First timing is with pythonista unloaded. Then subsequent timings just running after loaded

                              iOS 9.0.2

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                              • omz
                                omz last edited by omz

                                Pystone might also be interesting for benchmarking. It's included in the beta, so you can simply run

                                from test import pystone
                                pystone.main()
                                

                                (if you're not in the beta, you can simply copy/paste the pystone module I linked above, it's a single file.)

                                I recently got my new iPhone 6s, and the performance improvements are quite remarkable. I now get pretty much exactly the same result as on my (2012) MacBook Pro, i.e. around 115,000 pystones/second. On the iPad Air 2, it's around 60,000.

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                                • Phuket2
                                  Phuket2 last edited by

                                  With pystone same as @omz
                                  iPad Air 2, 128gb, iOS 9.02 (62,000)
                                  IPhone 6s 128gb, iOS 9.02 115,00

                                  I will be interested to try in on my Mac Pro

                                  Old screenshot, the OS has been updated of course

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                                  • Phuket2
                                    Phuket2 last edited by

                                    Wow, only got this on my MacPro.

                                    /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/python2.7 /Users/ianjoicey/PycharmProjects/untitled1/main.py
                                    Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 0.525893
                                    This machine benchmarks at 95076.4 pystones/second

                                    Process finished with exit code 0

                                    I am pretty sure it was run without debugging. Seems very slow compared to the other numbers.

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                                    • MartinPacker
                                      MartinPacker last edited by

                                      Well I'm using Pythonista on my iPad running an HTTP Server script to serve HTML (also edited in Pythonista) as (localhost) to Safari running in iOS 9 Slide Over mode.

                                      This is functioning as (a basic but) nice sidebar for augmenting text. For example wrapping text in quotes, composing Markdown links from text+URL.

                                      It's basic now; It might not be so basic later on.

                                      Not sure if this counts as the 1 iOS 9 element is I'm targeting Slide Over (which IS new in 9). And I'm doing it from Pythonista.

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                                      • Phuket2
                                        Phuket2 last edited by

                                        Pystone for iPad Pro, 128gb , wifi/cell iOS 9.1

                                        Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 0.35624
                                        This machine benchmarks at 140355 pystones/second

                                        thats a nice increase

                                        platform.platform()
                                        'Darwin-15.0.0-iPad6,8-64bit'
                                        import timeit
                                        timeit.timeit('import sympy')
                                        2.832141160964966

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                                        • Phuket2
                                          Phuket2 last edited by

                                          New iPad Pro 12.5' , time for new benchmark :) I had to run with 2.7, the map object in Pystone apparently does support subscripts in 3.x something. I didn't know how to fix, so I just ran with python 2.7

                                          It seems like @omz had a test built in before, but that looks like it's gone.

                                          My test below is a single run with Pythonista started fresh

                                          Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 0.246699
                                          This machine benchmarks at 202676 pystones/second
                                          Platform Darwin-16.7.0-iPad7,2-64bit
                                          timeit.timeit('import sympy')
                                          1.65520620346

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                                          • komanguy
                                            komanguy last edited by

                                            Ipad 12.5! Never heard about it.

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