Analyser and R for IOS

Matteo

@Walter Hi, in my opinion if Pythonista will have some powerful python math libraries built-in in next releases, I hope the @omz' App will be less about 500/600 Mb. A good thing would be to allow user to install what he needs and delete/uninstall what he doesn't use, to preserve storage mem; all the important/basic libraries should be protected (read only).
Bye

uja

I guess this shouldn't become an Analyser forum, but on the other hand, it seems one cannot emphasize enough that many would love to see support of Pandas and SciPy in Pythonista.

I made the investment and though the UI is seriously underwhelming, I am quite impressed with Analyser. Besides Python, it contains a pretty rich R environment with lots of popular packages. The main disadvantage is that the editor and the UI overall are rather rudimentary, to put it mildly. Without manually saving it, you may lose your work, for instance. Not an experience you know and like on an iPad.

Nevertheless, for me it is an okay to good offline solution. I certainly wouldn't call it a rip-off.

Phuket2

Maybe I should shut my big mouth, but that does not seem like me :). But the author mentioned in another post that @ccc references that he would be willing to sell the libs (complied in such a way that they could be used by Pythonista) to @omz. Hmmm, well sell is a pretty lose word. One time cost etc. I am not sure
I have no idea what the merits of this would be, regards updates, support etc....bloated App blah blah. Etc.
But if its a simple as raising some money (which I am guessing it not) I would be willing to contribute. I dont have any need for these libs and doubt I ever will. But I am all for anything that improves Pythonista for the users. For the skimpy amount I have paid for Pythonista Vrs the pleasure I have got out, I would have no problem with that. I think some others may feel the same way. I understand everyone has different financial suituations in the here and now, but for me I am in a suituation were I could kick in.
@omz, I hope you don't think I have crossed a line here. Is not my intention to. There are many ways to slice a cake though. I don't pretend to understand the ramifications of what's been suggested. In my own way, I feel I am trying to be helpful.

khilnani

It would be great if @omz could add pandas, Sicily/sklearn and nltk ... not having them is pretty much the reason I have gone back to ssh’ing to a remote server and also using Juno.sh

Bill_Raynor

For the R fans out there, think of Analyser as a batch processor. I found that using Textastic and Files improves the experience. Of course, when I started using R (S, actually) it was Emacs and the CLI, so it wasn't that big of a stretch for me. It's not interactive (see ?interactive).

Also R runs lots of helper programs and uses .so files profusely, which Apple forbids. so it is a cut down version.

Pythonista doesn't have pandas. Even you asked many times. The author doesn't care about users. Just a toy not a tool.

adrius42

@lpl your negotiation skills seem to be somewhat lacking. Do you think your <Flames> will help or hinder the case for including pandas

FYI: THERE ARE AN EVER GROWING NUMBER OF USERS WHO LOVE PYTHONISTA
and @omz for keeping it alive and ever more functional.

@adrius42 So did he ever give us the answer to the question? More and more people sent the same request. NO ANSWER. Did you try to talk to other developers? I sent emails to other developer and he could write back within 6 hours. And for omz? Maybe within 6 months.

JonB

It had been answered many times -- @omz has said he had no plans to implement scipy or pandas in the near future:

https://forum.omz-software.com/topic/1488/pandas-on-pythonista/22?page=2

https://forum.omz-software.com/topic/2544/wish-list-for-next-release/95#

There are more that I remember. The basic gist is that he has never said it will absolutely never happen, but also said he is not planning it in the near term, or commit to a date because it may or may not work out.

If I needed to use scipy/pandas on my iPad today, I would be using sagecell to run my work in the cloud. Not quite as convienent, but the wrench script works and makes it somewhat transparent. Any other promises or intentions are not going to help you today, and whining about it won't get it implemented sooner.

@JonB "Pandas is more likely to happen (again, no promises!)." 3 YEARS AGO....
LOL.

And Analyser and R for IOS already supported numpy,s.cipy,pandas,statsmodels,scikit-leary/image,nilearn,astroML,pymc,nipy many years ago. So I really don't know what is omz doing now. Maybe ui or other GREATER features instead of the modules in python even lots of people keep asking?

JonB

Analyzer and Juno are two apps that advertise support for scipy/pandas and the like. If that is a priority for you, I'd suggest you invest in one of those apps.

@JonB So even other apps already added them to their apps. And omz still said difficult/will try. And you, almost as an admin in this forum, just said, it's ok, at least it still can be used?

@JonB You really think Pythonista is a toy instead of a Productivity right?

JonB

Do you consider pythonista a toy? I don't
I just don't think pythonista offers pandas today.

If you actually wanted to use pandas, today, you would be using Matteo's excellent sagecell options.

Or, you should check out https://develobile.com/pyto/

Or Juno or Analyzer.

Or the other python app

Those apps offer what you are after. Pythonista currently doesn't.

@JonB https://github.com/holzschu/python3_ios/issues/2 lol.
I mean, I really don't understand why a user, would just feel satisified to this. The author can't make it even all other authors made it already. You would not push the app to move up, but enjoy staying in the warm bed, right?
Isn't pandas a tool which has been used by many projects? And so much many people want pandas in ipad, too. And the author just said difficult/will try for years? And you said it is ok? Such a nice user, just reported bugs, never asked for a feature, and never said no.

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ccc

I find the personal attacks inappropriate and unprofessional. The facts and alternatives have been clearly stated in this thread. If Pythonista does not have the features that you require, then adopt the alternatives but please avoid insults and do not ridicule the hard work of others.

cvp

Fully agree with @ccc

To all of you, if I want a feature, I would say like this, this app is wonderful and the author has added some great features to it, but I noticed that something is missed and I hope you can support this in the future.

And the author said, I will add this in few months/few days. Or I wouldn't add it because of some reasons.

And many people would keep asking why not and show that other apps already added this and it is not very hard. And many people are enjoying this feature.

And the author said nothing, nothing. NOTHING.

And admins said, if you use this, accept the fact that the author didn't care about you at all. Or just shut up.

So many people compromised. But not me.