Outliner with drag/drop reordering - part 2

ihf

@cvp I am using the latest version which is running the shortcut properly. I have an outline with a blank item at the end and if I try to delete it through the menu “delete with children” it hangs the program.

cvp

@ihf I just try the same without problem.

But, from last iOS update, I meet sometimes some hangs, even when starting the script.
Removing Pythonista from memory does not solve the problem but rebooting the iPad does the job.
Don't ask me why. I guess that without any Pythonista update, we will meet this kind of problem more frequently.

cvp

@ihf We have got a lot of crashes but never, as I remember, hangs. Is it reproducible after the reboot of the iDevice ?

cvp

@ihf said

I have an outline with a blank item at the end and if I try to delete it through the menu “delete with children” it hangs the program.

Did you retry after a reboot of the iPad?

ihf

@cvp It appears to be working now.

cvp

@ihf very quick post from my room in Italy: it works without any action or after a reboot?

ihf

@cvp I hope that you enjoyed (or are still enjoying) your vacation. Unfortunately, the script is freezing rather frequently now. I’m not even sure what a minimal failing case is. I thought it was when I tried to delete an empty last item but I have seen it freeze at other times as well. I know this is not what you wanted to hear.

cvp

@ihf two last days in vacation. As I said, I meet frequent freezings with Pythonista, even with other scripts or even at script start since last iOS update. Sincerely, I don't have any Idea how I could solve this kind of problems.

cvp

@ihf I'm back from vacation but I brought the Covid with me 😢, thus I'll need some time before I'm really back on the ScrollView version.

DavinE

@cvp said:

@ihf I'm back from vacation but I brought the Covid with me 😢, thus I'll need some time before I'm really back on the ScrollView version.

Get well soon @cvp

ihf

@cvp i’m so sorry to hear that. I hope you have a very mild case. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

cvp

@ihf @DavinE thanks

cvp

@ihf I'm still very tired due to the Covid and I can't concentrate enough to dive back into the ScrollView version of outline.py yet. And then, I see the new version 18.0 of Pyto arriving and I say to myself sadly that we will probably not see any new version of Pythonista while the young age of the developer of Pyto gives hope for a long future for her app. I wonder if it is worth spending more time modifying outline.py in Pythonista or should I decide to (try to) convert to Pyto, despite the fact that I know it will require a very major effort. Just thinking about it is already tiring me out. Could you give me your sincere opinion, thanks.

ihf

@cvp Most importantly, get some rest! As to continuing with Pythonista or switching to Pyto, that is a tough call. As least to date my experience with Pyto has not been good. It fails more frequently than Pythonista. Of course, given some degree of continuing support there is hope that it will eventually be more reliable than Pythonista, which gets no support. I suppose if you are interested in making the transition to Pyto for your projects more generally, then Outline is a good way to do it since you already have the feature-set, logic, and most of the code. If you are asking whether I would like to continue using Outline for the foreseeable future, the answer is yes.

ihf

@cvp After doing a delete with children the app freezes.

cvp

@ihf I think that you already met this problem. And freezing seems to occur more frequently. I personally think this comes not from Pythonista nor the script itself but from an iOS update.
What do you think I can do when a new problem occurs even if I did not change anything, just cry.

cvp

@ihf Rememeber, I was able to play normally without freezing afTer rebooting my iPad, no other way, even restarting Pythonista did not work. Reason for which I think the problem comes from the iOS.

ihf

@cvp I am wondering if the frequent freeze up is somehow related to the code that was added for Shortcuts syncing? Perhaps it would be worth trying to turn that off and see if the problem goes away.

cvp

@ihf do you mean the code added for

Version V01.36
  - in addition to save outline in calendar event on 01 January 2042,
    copy outline¥content in clipboard and
    run Clipboard_to_DataJar shortcut to also save outline in DataJar store
    as pair key=outline name value=outline content

If yes, the code is only

		clipboard.set(self.file + '¥' + notes)
		url_scheme = 'shortcuts://x-callback-url/run-shortcut?name=Clipboard_to_DataJar&input=clipboard&x-success=pythonista://'
		webbrowser.open(url_scheme)

You could comment or remove it or do you want a particular new version for it?

ihf

@cvp I commented those lines out. I'll let you know if it helps.