• dumdum

    @zrzka thank you - good stuff. You are absolutely right that it is time to write a simple program. That is what I have begun doing. Watch this space as they say.

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    @Phuket2 - thank you for your detailed response. I will check out the references you have provided. I am slowly gaining confidence in simple, non GUI, oo codewriting. I guess now it is a matter of learning what is available for GUI design and even perhaps, if it is possible, creating a stand-alone shareable app and more ambitiously web apps that might help some research collaborators.

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  • dumdum

    @Physick Thank you for your reply. It is very interesting to see our different observations. Did you pick up Pythonista before or after doing the course on Python?

    It seems to me that all the documentation provided is simply the standard python documentation expected to be used in one of the traditional IDEs. The result is that whilst read code examples the embedded copy button does not work. If you copy and paste using iPad functionality the quotes throw up problems. Further the standard tutorial is really only an elaborated reference manual. All these things will mount up for real novices - people the python community seem to want to catch. I therefore think there is a real place for two or three step by tutorials entirely in Pythonista terms that result in simple Pythonista applications.

    Finally I hasten to add that I am persuaded that Pythonista is in any case a very fine app. My quibble is just minor.

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  • dumdum

    @Phuket2 Thank you for your message. Yes we do have similarities. I am a late academic in systems engineering almost ready to retire. I see Python as a means of carrying forward some research themes that have lain idle for the want of some tools. I am almost fully convinced that this is a good tool for my purpose. I have spent some time looking up tutorials from other sources and remain impressed with the possibilities - as you say it can be used in a very basic way on one hand and by its class Support can be used for sophisticated applications. I have found the class implementation to be good but rather idiosyncratic.
    I will persevere and look forward to the time when I become reasonably fluent. I am at the stage of trying out some simple tasks such as some exercises in natural language parsing.
    Like you I find, now at least, more success in searching through google. Thanks again for your encouragement.

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  • dumdum

    Thank you
    I will give it a try

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    I am planning to creat an app on the MVC pattern where the model is a DAG (directed a-cyclic graph) with A single root node connected through the graph to a set of leaf nodes. Each node will derive from a node class. The viewer part will show the nodes and their connections as a line an box picture. The boxes will contain text from a text attribut of the underlying node class. The controller will allow nodes to be created, updated and deleted subject to certain Business rules.

    I am a newbie to the python world, let along Pythonista. I would welcome any observations that will accelerate my progress is developing the app. For example has anyone done it, is there a library I should use, what graphics controls should I consider?

    Thanks in advance.

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  • dumdum

    Thank you. These replies are helpful. However I think maybe an apportunity is missed. I am an out of date but experienced programmer so yes of course I can infer what is going on by reading through the examples and by experimenting. However I understand that there is an optimism that novice programmers can be drawn in to the use of Python. From that perspgective a specific getting started set of exercises in the documentation would be very helpful.

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  • dumdum

    OK, so I have no experience of python and I have just installed Pythonista. The idea was to learn Python and explore writing apps for the iPad with it. I haveover 40 years programming experience in Assembler, Algol, C C# Java and Visual Basic.

    I have to say that whilst Pythonista looked attractive as a way of programming on the iPad it is very poorly supported in the product with novice getting started help. Right now it seems rather opaque. Much of the documentation seems to be for Python on a workstation running Linux, Windows or OSX. When one it totally new to both the language and the development environment it is rather confusing.

    I would like to find some tutorials that start at a real beginner level and take me through the IDE with a simple subset of Python. Perhaps starting with a simple ‘hello world’ form and then incrementally revealing the power of the ide at the same time as bringing in more Python language - moving quickly to reveal its own nature.

    Pointers would be welcome.

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